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	<title>Comments on: Why is Flowchart.com a Web 3.0 software service?</title>
	<link>http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/08/14/why-is-flowchartcom-a-web-30-software-service/</link>
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		<link>http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/08/14/why-is-flowchartcom-a-web-30-software-service/#comment-11732</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Saved by tdejong on Thu 01-1-2009   Dragon*Con Thoughts Saved by gcarvelli on Thu 01-1-2009   Why is Flowchart.com a Web 3.0 software service? Saved by vericica on Sun 21-12-2008   MMORPG genre in the year 2006 Saved by jmonty on Sat [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/08/14/why-is-flowchartcom-a-web-30-software-service/#comment-10601</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/08/14/why-is-flowchartcom-a-web-30-software-service/#comment-10601</guid>
		<description>Hey JeffB,

"glorified BBS with pictures. Remeber those?"

Hey, watch it now. A good part of my business model depends on my web bulletin Board Software. Hee Hee. 

And my outfit, Monster Highway, started life as a dial up Gap Bulletin Board running Waffle as a "door" for an email Gateway. Those two computers are still here in storage. I'm gonna display them prominently in my corporate headquarters some day.

Keep Smiling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey JeffB,</p>
<p>&#8220;glorified BBS with pictures. Remeber those?&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, watch it now. A good part of my business model depends on my web bulletin Board Software. Hee Hee. </p>
<p>And my outfit, Monster Highway, started life as a dial up Gap Bulletin Board running Waffle as a &#8220;door&#8221; for an email Gateway. Those two computers are still here in storage. I&#8217;m gonna display them prominently in my corporate headquarters some day.</p>
<p>Keep Smiling!</p>
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		<title>By: JeffB</title>
		<link>http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/08/14/why-is-flowchartcom-a-web-30-software-service/#comment-10599</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/08/14/why-is-flowchartcom-a-web-30-software-service/#comment-10599</guid>
		<description>"One thing I getting more and more frustrated on it this web 2.0 or web 3.0 chatter… Brings an ugly taste to my mouth and its really not a true term of the internet for future use…"

Jeff, It may not be a  popular "marketing" term now, but infact giving a version number does reflect the evolution of the internet software interactivity. The process of combining different API's to create a user product is an evolution from initial closed backends websites of the 90s and 00's. Mashups do have a limitation that you are reliant upon 3rd party API for your site success. Google gets away with giving free API access to certain products as they know most of the time the user is going to slap adsense on their Mashup sites, so Google profits. But how do other sites profit if you don't have Google's economies of scale? 

Web 1.0 was a revolution, rest is evolution. 3.0 should make web application development more dynamic and profitable for each user. Each application needs to become like a MMORPG where a instant marketplace exist within the eco system of the application.  


"I would rather see “social graph, or social graphs) and we get rid of this web number… Google and Facebook are supporting this term and in fact facebook owns socialgraph.com or socialgraphs.com(forgot when I did the research into this)."

This is a new branding approach, IMO, won't take off. (The .com vs. rest of the gtld debate will be helpful notation here) Facebook/Myspace etc are nothing more than glorified BBS with pictures. Remeber those? 

JeffB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One thing I getting more and more frustrated on it this web 2.0 or web 3.0 chatter… Brings an ugly taste to my mouth and its really not a true term of the internet for future use…&#8221;</p>
<p>Jeff, It may not be a  popular &#8220;marketing&#8221; term now, but infact giving a version number does reflect the evolution of the internet software interactivity. The process of combining different API&#8217;s to create a user product is an evolution from initial closed backends websites of the 90s and 00&#8217;s. Mashups do have a limitation that you are reliant upon 3rd party API for your site success. Google gets away with giving free API access to certain products as they know most of the time the user is going to slap adsense on their Mashup sites, so Google profits. But how do other sites profit if you don&#8217;t have Google&#8217;s economies of scale? </p>
<p>Web 1.0 was a revolution, rest is evolution. 3.0 should make web application development more dynamic and profitable for each user. Each application needs to become like a MMORPG where a instant marketplace exist within the eco system of the application.  </p>
<p>&#8220;I would rather see “social graph, or social graphs) and we get rid of this web number… Google and Facebook are supporting this term and in fact facebook owns socialgraph.com or socialgraphs.com(forgot when I did the research into this).&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a new branding approach, IMO, won&#8217;t take off. (The .com vs. rest of the gtld debate will be helpful notation here) Facebook/Myspace etc are nothing more than glorified BBS with pictures. Remeber those? </p>
<p>JeffB</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/08/14/why-is-flowchartcom-a-web-30-software-service/#comment-10586</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/08/14/why-is-flowchartcom-a-web-30-software-service/#comment-10586</guid>
		<description>Hi Sahar,

wow...flowchart and your projects are hitting off well...congrats!  I am glad to see a well known domainer branch away from the ppc parking and actually create something from scratch...  Your making the news vs big time domainers...  Cant wait to see your spyware.com sell for the millions like property.com or spyware.com gets developed and its a cash cow machine like your future projects.

One thing I getting more and more frustrated on it this web 2.0 or web 3.0 chatter...  Brings an ugly taste to my mouth and its really not a true term of the internet for future use...

I would rather see "social graph, or social graphs) and we get rid of this web number...  Google and Facebook are supporting this term and in fact facebook owns socialgraph.com or socialgraphs.com(forgot when I did the research into this).  

Just something to ponder and feel free to do some research into this...would love to hear your thoughts on this vs web 3.0...  

cheers,

jeff

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Hi Jeff, and thanks for the kind words! 

About "Web 3.0", we just happen to like the term long before other have used it, for what we are using it. I guess it is a matter of taste.

Cheers

Sahar
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sahar,</p>
<p>wow&#8230;flowchart and your projects are hitting off well&#8230;congrats!  I am glad to see a well known domainer branch away from the ppc parking and actually create something from scratch&#8230;  Your making the news vs big time domainers&#8230;  Cant wait to see your spyware.com sell for the millions like property.com or spyware.com gets developed and its a cash cow machine like your future projects.</p>
<p>One thing I getting more and more frustrated on it this web 2.0 or web 3.0 chatter&#8230;  Brings an ugly taste to my mouth and its really not a true term of the internet for future use&#8230;</p>
<p>I would rather see &#8220;social graph, or social graphs) and we get rid of this web number&#8230;  Google and Facebook are supporting this term and in fact facebook owns socialgraph.com or socialgraphs.com(forgot when I did the research into this).  </p>
<p>Just something to ponder and feel free to do some research into this&#8230;would love to hear your thoughts on this vs web 3.0&#8230;  </p>
<p>cheers,</p>
<p>jeff</p>
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<p>Hi Jeff, and thanks for the kind words! </p>
<p>About &#8220;Web 3.0&#8243;, we just happen to like the term long before other have used it, for what we are using it. I guess it is a matter of taste.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Sahar</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Parks</title>
		<link>http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/08/14/why-is-flowchartcom-a-web-30-software-service/#comment-10580</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Parks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/08/14/why-is-flowchartcom-a-web-30-software-service/#comment-10580</guid>
		<description>This is one of my favorite projects of yours Sahar. I haven't logged-in in a while, but am always impressed when I do. EXCELLENT WORK.

----answer----

Thanks Jamie! This is Jeff's baby, he puts lots of work in this, large development team as well. 

Thanks for the support!

Sahar
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of my favorite projects of yours Sahar. I haven&#8217;t logged-in in a while, but am always impressed when I do. EXCELLENT WORK.</p>
<p>&#8212;-answer&#8212;-</p>
<p>Thanks Jamie! This is Jeff&#8217;s baby, he puts lots of work in this, large development team as well. </p>
<p>Thanks for the support!</p>
<p>Sahar</p>
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