Comments on: Servers On Fire! http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/06/02/servers-on-fire/ Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:12:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Zakky http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/06/02/servers-on-fire/#comment-9617 Zakky Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:56:27 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/06/02/servers-on-fire/#comment-9617 Take a look at Dark Blue Sea. They own 500,000 domain names and project USD5mm in revenues over 08. That's about USD9 per domain per year. Hardly covers registration costs. Definitely doesn't cover overheads. Their revenues have tanked because google lets advertisers opt-out of parked pages/direct navigation. DM isn't a great way to make money. Come on .... somebody .... tell me why I am wrong! Take a look at Dark Blue Sea. They own 500,000 domain names and project USD5mm in revenues over 08. That’s about USD9 per domain per year. Hardly covers registration costs. Definitely doesn’t cover overheads. Their revenues have tanked because google lets advertisers opt-out of parked pages/direct navigation. DM isn’t a great way to make money.

Come on …. somebody …. tell me why I am wrong!

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]]> By: Zakky http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/06/02/servers-on-fire/#comment-9574 Zakky Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:12:21 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/06/02/servers-on-fire/#comment-9574 99.9% of domains are of extremely limited value without development. Indeed they often represent a losing investment as parked domains frequently fail to cover their holding costs. The fact that they don't suggests that direct navigation isn't a great reason to invest in domains. I mean how often do you type in a generic or geo domain name without knowing anything about the site you are visiting? Really? I know I never do this. Instead I go to google. The fact that surfers cant be bothered to even enter msn or live or yahoo and instead type this into google shows that direct navigation is used by a very very small percentage of webusers. ------------------------------------------ If you got into domains in 97,98,99 etc and were lucky enough to pick up beer.com, pizza.com, sex.com, palmsprings.com, florida.com etc...then development will see these domains sell at 10x EBITDA. But, if you're starting out in the market today there is no way you will be able to establish a decent sized business. I very much doubt that any of the industry success stories we hear about all the time to could repeat their success if they started today. Much better for kids starting up to focus their time and attention elsewhere. 99.9% of domains are of extremely limited value without development. Indeed they often represent a losing investment as parked domains frequently fail to cover their holding costs. The fact that they don’t suggests that direct navigation isn’t a great reason to invest in domains. I mean how often do you type in a generic or geo domain name without knowing anything about the site you are visiting? Really? I know I never do this. Instead I go to google. The fact that surfers cant be bothered to even enter msn or live or yahoo and instead type this into google shows that direct navigation is used by a very very small percentage of webusers.
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If you got into domains in 97,98,99 etc and were lucky enough to pick up beer.com, pizza.com, sex.com, palmsprings.com, florida.com etc…then development will see these domains sell at 10x EBITDA. But, if you’re starting out in the market today there is no way you will be able to establish a decent sized business. I very much doubt that any of the industry success stories we hear about all the time to could repeat their success if they started today. Much better for kids starting up to focus their time and attention elsewhere.

]]> By: Steve Bates http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/06/02/servers-on-fire/#comment-9147 Steve Bates Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:27:23 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/06/02/servers-on-fire/#comment-9147 Sahar - Glad you are back online! I think a lot of people are completely missing your point. Which I think really has to do with the work it takes to develop something with good potential and turn it into a stream of steady cash flows. People don't pay Donald Trump for a brown field that he owns, although they would pay him for some advertising on a billboard. they pay for the product after he has put the time and effort into dveloping a building on the land. I can tell you this, BusinessJet.com is a much more valuable domain with content and a working model than just as a parking page. People are then paying me for the business model attached to the right address. LearJetForum.com could be a nice site for LearJet owners to talk about their aircraft, but until someone puts the time and effort into developing the forum, it won't earn more than a few cents a day. I really think Geo owners (and I own some good and some bad geo doamins) should embrace the idea that this is a domain with valuable potential, if I diligently work to develop it and build it, it is no longer simply a domain but now a successful business and an integral part of the community. The geo domainer is then no longer a passive investor but an engaged entrepreneur. ----answer---- Exactly Steve. Cheers Sahar Sahar -

Glad you are back online!

I think a lot of people are completely missing your point. Which I think really has to do with the work it takes to develop something with good potential and turn it into a stream of steady cash flows.

People don’t pay Donald Trump for a brown field that he owns, although they would pay him for some advertising on a billboard. they pay for the product after he has put the time and effort into dveloping a building on the land.

I can tell you this, BusinessJet.com is a much more valuable domain with content and a working model than just as a parking page. People are then paying me for the business model attached to the right address.

LearJetForum.com could be a nice site for LearJet owners to talk about their aircraft, but until someone puts the time and effort into developing the forum, it won’t earn more than a few cents a day.

I really think Geo owners (and I own some good and some bad geo doamins) should embrace the idea that this is a domain with valuable potential, if I diligently work to develop it and build it, it is no longer simply a domain but now a successful business and an integral part of the community. The geo domainer is then no longer a passive investor but an engaged entrepreneur.

—-answer—-

Exactly Steve.

Cheers

Sahar

]]> By: Damir http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/06/02/servers-on-fire/#comment-8886 Damir Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:42:13 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/06/02/servers-on-fire/#comment-8886 Sahar I do agree with you. The TRUE value of a domain name is in the FULL development of it ONLINE you are spot on. When it comes to GeoDomains they have to be also fully developed to get the full benefit out of the domain name in $$ value (revenue) which requires hard work and dedication. Sahar I do agree with you.

The TRUE value of a domain name is in the FULL development of it ONLINE you are spot on.

When it comes to GeoDomains they have to be also fully developed to get the full benefit out of the domain name in $$ value (revenue) which requires hard work and dedication.

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