Comments on: How To (Really) Make Money With Domain Names http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:46:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Here Come the Developer Armies » Ask Shane.org http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/#comment-10782 Here Come the Developer Armies » Ask Shane.org Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:44:58 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/#comment-10782 [...] Sahar didn’t agree with my advice in How to (Really) Make Money with Domain Names and wrote in response on his own blog: [T]here is gold in development, however, if you think it is better than domain ownership and PPC, [...] […] Sahar didn’t agree with my advice in How to (Really) Make Money with Domain Names and wrote in response on his own blog: [T]here is gold in development, however, if you think it is better than domain ownership and PPC, […]

]]> By: Making Money with Domain Names, Revisited » Ask Shane.org http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/#comment-8460 Making Money with Domain Names, Revisited » Ask Shane.org Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:25:36 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/#comment-8460 [...] The second reason was to admit that I have a huge blindspot when it comes to development. For me, it’s easy to look at a domain, determine if you could quickly build a valuable site under, and then go do it. As with anything that’s easy for you personally, though, you tend to forget that it’s not anywhere near that easy for everyone. [...] […] The second reason was to admit that I have a huge blindspot when it comes to development. For me, it’s easy to look at a domain, determine if you could quickly build a valuable site under, and then go do it. As with anything that’s easy for you personally, though, you tend to forget that it’s not anywhere near that easy for everyone. […]

]]> By: DP http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/#comment-5210 DP Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:34:56 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/#comment-5210 "I just can't see any way that buying and holding is a safer strategy than developing." This is true only if you value your time at zero. Factor in the value of your time, whatever you could be making with your skills elsewhere, and most sites are NOT profitable. For every Youtube and Facebook there are tens of thousands of sites that never go anywhere. Read 6 month's worth of Techcrunch posts then see that most of those companies fade into oblivion after their initial launch - and this is the cream of the crop, those Techcrunch deemed important enough to cover, usually those who raised VC financing. Don't get me wrong, I personally believe in development. I was a developer long before I was a domainer, but this notion of "Develop your domains and you will make more money" is often not true. Successful development is hard and someone fortunate enough to be making a nice living from their PPC really needs to consider what they want to do for a living .. there isn't a magic little red "develop me" button that comes with each domain. “I just can’t see any way that buying and holding is a safer strategy than developing.”

This is true only if you value your time at zero. Factor in the value of your time, whatever you could be making with your skills elsewhere, and most sites are NOT profitable. For every Youtube and Facebook there are tens of thousands of sites that never go anywhere. Read 6 month’s worth of Techcrunch posts then see that most of those companies fade into oblivion after their initial launch - and this is the cream of the crop, those Techcrunch deemed important enough to cover, usually those who raised VC financing.

Don’t get me wrong, I personally believe in development. I was a developer long before I was a domainer, but this notion of “Develop your domains and you will make more money” is often not true. Successful development is hard and someone fortunate enough to be making a nice living from their PPC really needs to consider what they want to do for a living .. there isn’t a magic little red “develop me” button that comes with each domain.

]]> By: Shane http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/#comment-5206 Shane Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:31:42 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/#comment-5206 Thanks for the comments, Sahar! My main point, as you included in the quote above, is that development is the "low-risk, high-return way to make money with domains." You control your costs 100%, and the "execution,... learning curve, frustration, and patience" are certainly no more than they are in domaining. I just can't see any way that buying and holding is a safer strategy than developing. Thanks for the comments, Sahar!

My main point, as you included in the quote above, is that development is the “low-risk, high-return way to make money with domains.” You control your costs 100%, and the “execution,… learning curve, frustration, and patience” are certainly no more than they are in domaining.

I just can’t see any way that buying and holding is a safer strategy than developing.

]]> By: Damir http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/#comment-5201 Damir Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:35:40 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/#comment-5201 First of all nothing is "easy" in life. Whatever outcomes one person wants to produce be it positive or negative they require EFFORT (effort in doing the "right" or "wrong" thing). There are so many online businesses that if a person wants to sell it's domain name portofolio or part of it, the person should contact those online businesses and point ot to them why it would be beneficial to buy the (that) domain name. When it comes to domain name parking the pay per click revenue $ commission paid to the domain name owner from the parking provider is what decides the outcome (MOST Domain Name parking service providers pay NEXT TO NOTHING to the domain name owners - they advertise ads like 100% , 70% revenue share if you park your domain names with them - it's all crap since domain name owners do NOT make any money - maybe if they are lucky 2-10 cents a click - it'sCRAP). I hope this helps <u>Note: edited due to excessive advertising</u> First of all nothing is “easy” in life.
Whatever outcomes one person wants to produce be it positive or negative they require EFFORT (effort in doing the “right” or “wrong” thing).

There are so many online businesses that if a person wants to sell it’s domain name portofolio or part of it, the person should contact those online businesses and point ot to them why it would be beneficial to buy the (that) domain name.

When it comes to domain name parking the pay per click revenue $ commission paid to the domain name owner from the parking provider is what decides the outcome (MOST Domain Name parking service providers pay NEXT TO NOTHING to the domain name owners - they advertise ads like 100% , 70% revenue share if you park your domain names with them - it’s all crap since domain name owners do NOT make any money - maybe if they are lucky 2-10 cents a click - it’sCRAP).

I hope this helps

Note: edited due to excessive advertising

]]> By: Mark Fulton http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/#comment-5195 Mark Fulton Tue, 29 Jan 2008 05:28:59 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/28/how-to-really-make-money-with-domain-names/#comment-5195 Shane gives some great advice there. When I have the capital to invest, I have in mind to acquire some prime generic domains to develop myself. I am not so sure that anyone is qualified to label development or ownership/PPC any better or worse than the other. It all has to be put in perspective. More often than not domainers are both owners and developers, even if you are contracting programmers to do it for you. That said, it has to be a very small percentage of domainers who simply park 100% of their domain names. If you have great generic domains that are parked, get in touch! Give a developer few months to work some magic and you become a new business owner, wherein the value of your domain and new business will surely surpass your PPC earnings. Shane gives some great advice there. When I have the capital to invest, I have in mind to acquire some prime generic domains to develop myself.

I am not so sure that anyone is qualified to label development or ownership/PPC any better or worse than the other. It all has to be put in perspective. More often than not domainers are both owners and developers, even if you are contracting programmers to do it for you.

That said, it has to be a very small percentage of domainers who simply park 100% of their domain names.

If you have great generic domains that are parked, get in touch! Give a developer few months to work some magic and you become a new business owner, wherein the value of your domain and new business will surely surpass your PPC earnings.

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