Comments on: How We Think (Part II) http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/06/how-we-think-part-ii/ Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:42:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Sahar Sarid http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/06/how-we-think-part-ii/#comment-4882 Sahar Sarid Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:07:44 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/06/how-we-think-part-ii/#comment-4882 Hi Ben, They cannot be on top of a system which they fundamentally don't believe in. Their job is "top 10", not personalization. Search though is about relevancy which is really about personal needs. While I do agree they collect allot of information I would sat compare to what MS "Stuff I've Seen" it is a fraction, and even MS could be better if they include more information such as speech, cameras, etc. Cheers Sahar Hi Ben,
They cannot be on top of a system which they fundamentally don’t believe in. Their job is “top 10″, not personalization. Search though is about relevancy which is really about personal needs. While I do agree they collect allot of information I would sat compare to what MS “Stuff I’ve Seen” it is a fraction, and even MS could be better if they include more information such as speech, cameras, etc.
Cheers
Sahar

]]> By: Ben Wilks http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/06/how-we-think-part-ii/#comment-4878 Ben Wilks Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:45:01 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/06/how-we-think-part-ii/#comment-4878 Oh, and Hopefully I am 100% wrong!! Oh, and Hopefully I am 100% wrong!!

]]> By: Ben Wilks http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/06/how-we-think-part-ii/#comment-4877 Ben Wilks Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:43:56 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/06/how-we-think-part-ii/#comment-4877 Also I should add that I have 100% faith in Google replicating, or datamining any source to the point they can provide a top 10 that covers all the content you would want to see. The other side is the fact that you also need the content to catch up to the task, sometimes there simply isn't enough content. Mapping out the world's information one keyword at a time would be awefully hard. Also I should add that I have 100% faith in Google replicating, or datamining any source to the point they can provide a top 10 that covers all the content you would want to see.

The other side is the fact that you also need the content to catch up to the task, sometimes there simply isn’t enough content. Mapping out the world’s information one keyword at a time would be awefully hard.

]]> By: Ben Wilks http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/06/how-we-think-part-ii/#comment-4876 Ben Wilks Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:37:14 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/06/how-we-think-part-ii/#comment-4876 Hi Sahar! I think Google are well on top of these matters (dare I say it - maybe I am not seeing it all too :P), especially considering the level of data that they are ammasing on each individual (potentially the worlds best data set?), soon they will have you geotargetted via your phone and listening into God know's what. What happens when ads are so targetted they have value? Advertisers subsidising mobiles China and India wide, not to mention the rest of the eastern and western worlds :D Back to earth now... Re: your 5 points above, I think you can achieve this already with Google. If you cannot, Google need to educate more seo's if the results are crap, or their algo in a knot, and needs an upgrade - lol. Or people need to start treating seo a lot more seriously :D 1. I want to know more about it - back relief information 2. Quick fix to get some relief for my back - fast back pain relief 3. What types there are and which one may I be experiencing - types of back pain 4. How to Cure - cure back pain 5. Who can help me - back pain help Some simple keywords that can easily be expanded upon... Why not make assista use these words as internal links for nice indexing in Google :D Long term would be good to see assista ranking well in the Google serps. Hi Sahar!

I think Google are well on top of these matters (dare I say it - maybe I am not seeing it all too :P), especially considering the level of data that they are ammasing on each individual (potentially the worlds best data set?), soon they will have you geotargetted via your phone and listening into God know’s what. What happens when ads are so targetted they have value? Advertisers subsidising mobiles China and India wide, not to mention the rest of the eastern and western worlds :D
Back to earth now… Re: your 5 points above, I think you can achieve this already with Google. If you cannot, Google need to educate more seo’s if the results are crap, or their algo in a knot, and needs an upgrade - lol. Or people need to start treating seo a lot more seriously :D
1. I want to know more about it - back relief information
2. Quick fix to get some relief for my back - fast back pain relief
3. What types there are and which one may I be experiencing - types of back pain
4. How to Cure - cure back pain
5. Who can help me - back pain help

Some simple keywords that can easily be expanded upon… Why not make assista use these words as internal links for nice indexing in Google :D Long term would be good to see assista ranking well in the Google serps.

]]> By: Martin http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/06/how-we-think-part-ii/#comment-4870 Martin Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:45:33 +0000 http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/01/06/how-we-think-part-ii/#comment-4870 I think we should ask the other way round - why do we use the same query, even though we are actually inquiring about different things? The answer is IMO: Because the search engines taught us to use simple, keyword-like queries; we've realized they don't understand natural language, so we translate our questions into phrases the SEs understand. The nuances get lost in this translation. Bring on a search engine that will understand the natural language and people will start typing a different kind of queries. I think we should ask the other way round - why do we use the same query, even though we are actually inquiring about different things?
The answer is IMO: Because the search engines taught us to use simple, keyword-like queries; we’ve realized they don’t understand natural language, so we translate our questions into phrases the SEs understand. The nuances get lost in this translation.

Bring on a search engine that will understand the natural language and people will start typing a different kind of queries.

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